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Well, it isn't yet a record- not like the British 100 years war against the French, or even the 20 years Civil War; but they're over- when will this one be over? Any bets?

Ray:

Don't forget the Korean Police Action which is technically still on-going. Actually since there are still people dying it isn't so technically is it. That one is about 60 years old.

Patrick- yes; just goes to show, as the old cliche states, that it's easier to start a war than to end one.

I'm not sure your characterization of my position is accurate. I don't actually agree with most of what you wrote in this post, and I wasn't clear if my own post made it appear that I do. Your thinking on this seems to be very much in line with Galrahn's (of Information Dissemination); his flip essay about this article so annoyed me as to have inspired my own on the subject.

G-man, you wrote a wall of text on the issue, very informative, that basically said "no harm, no foul." And then at the very end, you said "But..." Can we at least say, you are unconvinced that Holmes/Hastings made a legitimate case of wrongdoing?

Apologies if I summarized you too quickly, but I don't think you are as opposed to what Caldwell did as you protest here. My point is, this is business as usual. You may not like it, but "it is what it is." You can call for a change to more simple lines of communication and authority between Congress, State, and Defense, but it's not going to happen anytime soon.

J-

It is a well-stated argument in defense of your position, but I have climbed onto the other side of the fence on this one. On microcosmic level, it presents the military as a deep state. We must never allow for such a political hue. On just a basic level though, little sophistry is required at this point regarding budgetary needs to sustain military operations in two regions. The needs are critical.

But if indeed deliberate psych manipulation was the goal, I find it personally distasteful and unprofessional.


The concept of deep state dates back to the Ottoman Empire, if memory serves me right....

Tammy Swofford

G-man, you wrote a wall of text on the issue, very informative, that basically said "no harm, no foul." And then at the very end, you said "But..." Can we at least say, you are unconvinced that Holmes/Hastings made a legitimate case of wrongdoing?

Again, I wouldn't say that the gist of my post was "no harm, no foul" -- the title alone should make that clear. What I meant to convey is that if the allegations in the article were truthful (and it's not certain that they were; in fact, a lot of what's come out since last week suggests they were not), LTG Caldwell's behavior may not have constituted lawbreaking but was almost certainly an inappropriate use of the resources at his disposal.

"It is what it is," for me, isn't a defense. Again: I'll concede that there's no bright line here, but I think the most important issue in this entire imbroglio is what I identified as #4 in my post: we're all pretending like it's perfectly legit for the CG of a training command to wage an influence campaign with the national political leadership. It's probably more important that we examine that assumption than that we make sure we're only using STRATCOM personnel (and not IO personnel) to wage that campaign.

Having read your piece and Gulliver's, Jason, ISTM that, at the very least, ISTM that the CG of CSTC-A/NTM-A was hoping to do a little empire-building of his own. For all that the good folks at ISAF seem to be trying to pop smoke on Hastings, this seems like a very arcane issue to try and fabricate a story out of whole cloth. So I suspect that at some point LTG Caldwell did direct elements in his command to work on producing talking points to sell the congresscritters.

But this counds more like a GO who has a little too much ambition (or an exaggerated sense of high drama and the importance of his mission) and a thin grasp of the boundaries in the political-military relationship rather than some sort of systematic manipulation of the USG by the Army, ISAF, or CSTC-A/NTM-A.

Seems more like a sort of individual-letter-of-reprimand situation to me.

"ISTM that the..."

Gotta proofread these comments better...

Actually, Joshua Foust over at Registan makes a good point about the issue behind the issue: "What worries me is what this says about how the war is being managed, and the mention of think tankers. Regular readers here know I rail against the “ISAF adventure tours” across Afghanistan—whatever think tank they work for, there is a considered effort to support the “research trips” of pro-war think tankers looking to push the agenda of the military. To me, it is an absolutely poisonous dynamic of the intellectual discussion of the war, with an ideological foundation for controlling access to the war." (http://www.registan.net/index.php/2011/02/24/the-caldwell-kerfluffle/)

I can remember something like this from my early days in service, when the anger at the "Dolchstoss" in Vietnam were still strong. There was a very powerful sense in the Army of the late Seventies that what had gone wrong was that the country, especially the press and the government, had betrayed the Army.

I can understand how the guys felt; they'd given themselves, and their friends, and their Army, and felt that they had been thrown away. But the problem I saw then, and I see in this, was confusing the imediate mission with the greater national goals. For a CG to be so wrapped around his mission that its success becomes worth possibly crossing the line from pushing his case within channels to directly lobbying congresscritters? That can't be good, and hopefully it's just a one-off and not a more widespread attitude.

These damn things are cabinet wars. Cabinet wars are, by definition, limited in terms of resources and goals. The Army has got to deal with that and not take a big ol' morale hit when the time comes to stuff the poncho hootch back in the ruck and ENDEX.

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