« I Am Shocked, Shocked to Hear... | Main | Defense Budget Fun »

28 December 2010

TrackBack

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a00d83451b39369e20147e10d9b22970b

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Tactical Nukes Are Next to Go:

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

"so European nations can continue to underfund their defense programs"

And here comes Sven Ortmann in 5, 4, 3...

I should add that I'm an active-duty Army officer currently in Iraq who thinks that the US spends way too much on defense for what we get out of it, and I don't know nearly enough about European defense spending to comment intelligently about them one way or the other. But I've been reading both of your blogs long enough to recognize some prime Sven-bait when I see it.

Sven can answer the finances but:

"nor do we really need US military forces in terms of Army brigades and Air Force fighter/bomber wings in Europe."
J, this raises a questions that have often occurred to me. What do we do with all those troops and equipment when brought back? How to maintain military readiness and experience across the whole climatic and geographical fields? What jobs do the troops have to come home to, not if, but when those if cut
-backs are made? That's an area I'd like to see clarified.

Well that's a good question, Ray. I think you'll see four things happening. 1) the units will return to major US military bases that might still have some room - Ft Hood, Ft Lewis, Ft Bragg, etc. 2) Congress and others have been implying the need to consider reducing troop numbers in light of defense cuts to equipment, so some units may be retired. 3) the military will allow retirements, medical disabilities, and discharges to attrit the force without recruiting more troops to replace them. 4) our state-side training and doctrine command staffs have been severely reduced by the war and there are ample opportunities to get these vets into those jobs.

As to where the people who leave the military will go, the Obama administration is pressuring the government agencies to give preferential treatment to military vets. I think this is a nod to their service and recognition of the tough job market out there, that they ought to have a little bit of an edge. This will, however, have the unfortunate side effect of denying some smart, young people from getting into the govt, but that's the breaks.

Doug; vacation and all...

TacNukes are a very different crop now than they were during the Cold War. Their per-unit value in naval and air warfare has increased because there are less warships and less air wings. The greatest navy of the world could be ruined by hundred fission nukes.

TacNukes' value per-unit in warfare on the ground is on the other hand probably negative by now.
Army forces disperse way too much and are unlikely to be detected, identified and verified as proper target when stationary. Armies operate with battalion and even company battlegroups nowadays - even a 10 kt fission nuke is more harmful than can be justified by a 50% destruction of such a battlegroup. This is especially true if you are fighting against invaders or in a limited war or if the target is in hilly or settlement terrain.

I see little military purpose beyond a TacNuke arsenal of about 200-400 warheads (and the yield doesn't need to be greater than 20 kt) per alliance.

Europe has an arsenal of about that size, the U.S. has more, Russia has more, the full Chinese and Israeli arsenals are estimated to be at that size.

Dual-purpose warheads (compatible both with intercontinental and battlefield delivery systems) could allow for an even smaller arsenal without much loss of deterrence.


About the "underfunded" thing; it depends on your expectations. The current European level of military spending seems to fit with the expectations better than a much higher level did during the Cold War.


Btw, the least relevant question about nukes is on which continent you store them. You can move them from one continent to another in a day, and it's borderline insane to expect their defensive employment on day one of a hot conflict.

The comments to this entry are closed.

May 2011

Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30 31        

Daily Thoughts


What I'm Reading

Countering WMDs

National Security

General Military Links

National Security Thinktanks

My Photo

Sigger's Law

  • Sigger's Law: "As any discussion on terrorism grows longer, the probability of attributing terrorists with nuclear weapons (or similar destructive capabilities) approaches 1." Corollary to Sigger's Law: "Once such an observation is made, the discussion is finished and whoever mentioned terrorist possession of nuclear weapons has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress."

CBRND Wiki Project

  • CBRND/CWMD in the Wikipedia
    This post is dedicated as a reference site for Wikipedia entries relating to CBRN defense or WMD issues. Some of them badly need improvements and/or references.

Google Search

  • Google

    WWW
    armchairgeneralist.typepad.com

Armed Forces Press Service

Political and Social Commentary Blogs

Enter your email address:

Delivered by FeedBurner

Blog Directories

Notable

Blog powered by TypePad
Member since 12/2004