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I'd really like to see someone opposed to gays openly serving explain why this issue is different than when the services integrated racially. As I understand it, the arguments are all the same with the same predictions of lost effectiveness, esprit de corps, recruiting problems, etc.

Oh, you don't want to have that conversation. It's ridiculous and they aren't open for reason. The most common response I hear from such opponents is that homosexuality is a "lifestyle decision" and not an inherent trait. Then the second argument is how we shouldn't use the military as a "test bed" to implement progressive social reforms.

They're still back in the 1950s, pushing the position that gays and lesbians should stay under cover, should not receive equal benefits because it will either destroy marriages or destroy military culture. This is an emotional debate, not logical.

Actually, J, I think their tone is very different this time around, which bodes well for the repeal of DADT. Listen to what they're actually saying: not "homosexuality is a sin against God," but, "oh, we're kind of busy right now, call back later."

They really don't want to talk about it because it's one of those issues that reveals the extent to which the Republican base has diverged from the majority. The US is simply not the same country, culturally, that it was in 1993. But the religious right that anchors the GOP to such losing issues as school prayer, evolution, and gay repression is stuck in the nineteenth century. There's no way this argument ends in their favor. Losing would be bad enough, but winning would be a disaster. Studying it to death is the best they can hope for.

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Oh come one let ole Grover from the street be free J !

I actually like the stalling tactic as I read it to study the thing for a year. Though it's a valid decision to make since having been at a particularly military institute when women first got there, you had better have your shit together on all fronts on how to deal with what will come up or you end like the Citadel.

But the politics tell me the Repubs might latch on to this to keep their base salivating for 2012 while trying to actually get shit done between now and and then with this other one term Democrat president. Hope and pray...

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