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J:

Just outta curiosity, dude. What translation are you readin' from?

I am embarrassed to say that I cheated and took these quotes from BrainyQuotes.

"The Nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools."

Thucydides

I cannot emphasize enough the need for greater investment in the IB (Intellectual Battlespace). Our lack of understanding of the Arab street continues to plague us. Beyond that, observation and interaction involve two separate dynamics. Observational skills work in the laboratory. Interaction skills, work in theater.

*Great piece, J.

Tammy Swofford

Nice quote, Tammy. I'm going to save that one.

I think all of this is just sitting here waiting to be taken hold of though J. With Bush it was an execution thing, they knew they had to do it, didn't plan well for it and screwed up the execution when Bush decided to transition after mission accomplished. I think the conventional ops and tactics would work if you could just manage the transitions. While Thucydides quote applies, I think we've got the warrior scholars right in front of us, the problem is they've quite fighting and gone to the thinktanks. And we've got plenty of smart people who can't think about war the right way to make their 90lb brain bombs fit the paradigm.

"Greg Jaffe is a good journalist, and I look forward to reading his book. On the other hand, making a statement like "War is war. And we waste far too much energy trying to categorize it" is a remarkably stupid statement."

Amen. Sort a knee-jerk autopilot Clausewitzianism. Or maybe an autistic Clausewitzianism. Regardless, it represents an impatience with complexity and a desire to say one size fits all.

Tammy: Good luck with "Intellectual Battlespace". What lil' I know 'bout armed forces personnel (at least in the continental U.S.) is that most of 'em don't like readin'. At least articles on the psyche of other cultures.

J.: No worries, dude. I'm not done readin' Vom Kriege either. I do cut-&-paste as well (unwisely). I do recommend you read 'em 13 chapters though. :)

Zen: "knee-jerk autopilot Clausewitzian" sounds like some form of intellectual premature ejaculation. Then again, maybe that's what most journalists are good at.

But underlying it all is President Obama's strategy for buying time?
See www.stratfor.com

Nice link Ray, very thought provoking

YT,

I believe I "coined" (play on words here...) the term Intellectual Battlespace several years ago and have been an active voice for an IB military unit, beyond the research lab, military intel and other outstanding units already functioning within our military institutions. Although now in the IRR with the (dreaded) secondary need to churn out correspondence courses, I love my Navy and USMC. Tactical poetics are still lacking, and that is my current area of personal research.

You speak of a "premature ejaculation" and I had to smile. When discussing the IB with a fellow analyst he commented, "Scholars having wet dreams about fighting over books." Yep. May they have a few more whilst being properly funded. Arabic, Persian and Urdu literature is now found on ample scale (with translation) on the internet, including things culled from manuscripts.

Our troops: Within my Det, prior to moving into Iraq there was an interesting dynamic. There was intense interest in service abroad but negligible interest in cultural intelligence. Sad.

This problem was also noted on entrance to Vietnam and programs were set in motion to educate our troops on basic customs, traditions of the Vietnamese.

As far as "warrior scholars", a few within this class remain from a different strategic era, that of the 20th century. Flexibility and transitional thought may prove difficult for some. But thought precedes action. May we act on our best thoughts.

Tammy

Tammy,

thanks for replyin'. Must be great servin' in the USNR (least you've got somethin' to look forward to other than your paycheck).

Re: "Flexibility and transitional thought may prove difficult for some."

I think it was Machiavelli who said the followin': "It ought to be remembered that there is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things."

Habits & thinkin' processes which are almost second nature are indeed difficult to overcome. Much less tryin' to introduce new paradigms.

"Scholars having wet dreams about fighting over books." LOL! Good thing I'm not exactly an academic. I pity those dudes livin' in their iv(or)y towers. :)

May you have a blessed week.

YT

Thank you.

I see our fearless leader has again posted more than I can manage to read. Does he ever sleep?!

Tammy

Tammy,

Maybe he's got a ninja with special powers. They're believed to "split into multiple bodies. The "real" him can rest while his manifestations do all the work.

YT

Behold, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work.

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