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The part you quoted doesn't specify "offensive operations", nor did the Raw Story say that it was outlawed in training. It said it was "banned during war." I think you're overreading them.

Maybe. I think the article and/or ACLU are directly implying that pepper spray must be a horrible thing if it is "banned for use in war." I clearly demonstrate that RCAs are not banned for use in war but are banned as offensive weapons by military forces. There is a difference.

I would also suggest that calling pepper spray a "riot control agent" is a bit of an exaggeration, since the use of the term RCAs is largely dependent upon the circumstances. That is, pepper spray can be used as an RCA if employed in significant quantities, but it is employed much more commonly as a personal defense tool or non-lethal weapon against single persons or small groups. As such, I think the article's reference to pepper spray as something that is "banned during warfare" is just bad journalism.

Has pepper spray ever actually been used as a "riot control agent?" It's used to control individuals, generally, and not crowds. Moreover, (Jason, maybe you can elaborate on this) is everything a military does considered "warfare?"

To use pepper spray to clear a bunker would almost certainly be banned. But an occupying force that is engaged in police activity would seem to be entitled to use all common and internationally-accepted police weapons and tactics.

Pepper spray and Tasers are useful and even laudable when used in place of guns. They become excessive when they are used for punishment or intimidation, or in situations where force is not ordinarily indicated. One of the faults of weapons that "hurt" rather than "kill" is that the user adopts a blase "better safe than sorry" attitude that causes him to Taser everyone on the grounds that there are unlikely to be any lasting consequences. This is the logic behind subjecting the user to the effects of the weapon in training: to remind him that the use of the weapon is not trivial to the person on the receiving end.

James - there have been instances where pepper spray-based products have been used for "crowd control" - see here and here, for instance. Saw a comment at one pepper-spray sales site where a cop said he used a four-ounce dispenser to force a perp out of a room.

Re: military operations as "warfare", absolutely there is the confusion by liberal groups (and perhaps other critics) that the two are the same. But military operations span many things other than war, which is why we used to have the MOOTW acronym (military operations other than war). Personal opinion, the ACLU is trying to stop the general use of pepper spray by cops and military because of some bad judgment shown by a few that have led to unnecessary deaths.

"Carol Anne Bond, 37, acknowledged that she applied potassium dichromate taken from her employer, Rohm & Haas, to the front door handle and car tail pipe of her romantic rival. While the material can be lethal if ingested, Myrlinda Haynes suffered no harm."

Feh. I had two vials of Potassium Dichromate in my chemistry set, back when chemistry sets actually had chemicals in them.

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