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Maybe he is making a "primal scream" against the fact that he was involved in a politicized war that was fought under the guise "bring Western-style democracy", where moral clarity is scarce. The blurb is terse for SWJ, but I know a lot of vets feel that way.

As for Yglesias, his standard meme about Support the Troops but not the war is dull and has been advanced by the progressive blogging community for years. It's really nothing new, and he's setting up Dilegge as a strawman to take down.

One should be careful not to lump "Iraqi's" into one homogeneous group. For example, the Kurds and some of the southern Shiites are much better off than under Saddam. The Sunni's - not so much.

It's also important to separate the decision to go to war from the incompetence that followed the toppling of Saddam's regime. IOW, had the occupation gone swimmingly instead of the debacle it was, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation because there wouldn't be thousands of American and tens-of-thousands Iraqi dead. IOW, most of the hatred is based on things that were preventable despite and ill-advised war.

I've never been a big fan of the Small Wars Journal crowd, which often strikes me as being a more intelligent and genteel version of their counterparts at Black Five. I'm accordingly not surprised that this sort of post appears.

What all of these folks seem to have in common is unquestioning support of any and all military action, just so long as there is a U.S. imprimatur on it. Actually thinking about what may be very complex issues underlying these military actions seems to be out of bounds, probably because they don't want anything that might suggest U.S. dereliction to intrude on their basic narrative. Which is ultimately as simple as: "USA! USA! USA!"

SWJ is far more dangerous than Black Five because there are some actual thinkers involved. Unfortunately, it often seems as if the thinking primarily consists of ways in which to drum up more business for the magnificent COIN force they desire and to accordingly remake the military into a COIN-centric force. IMO, we don't need more COIN business, nor should we make hasty decisions regarding force structure.

Maybe just a little too imperialistic and jingostic for my liking. Also, serious blinders regarding the use of anything other than military force to accomplish an overarching mission in which all possible tools, e.g., intelligence, police, statecraft, economics, etc., must be employed for there to be any likelihood of success.

J,

Now they're onto you, buddy. Check out Nagle's post. It kind of sounds like he wants to be above all the politics associated with the modern conflicts. A hard thing to do nowadays. Or you could take the cynical approach and say they don't take criticism very well.

Yes: too much noise about shoe throwing. Trivial media stuff that will, unfortunately, go down in the history books. The launcher's aim was lousy, but Mr Bush reacted with dignity (must say that; even though I don't like the chap). Also, Iraq shoes apparently are not aerodynamic. Sales of shoes have gone up, though.
R.

Publius;

I participated in the SWJ a bit and learned that (not a lone opinion) they have a kind of tunnel vision indeed. They don't question wars very much - and the ongoing ones almost not at all.
They seem to overestimate their intellectuality as well (or I do - or all. Anyway, someone involved does!).

There's also a kind of group pressure - a nail that sticks out gets hammered still it doesn't do so anymore.

Finally, they are (like many U.S.-dominated affairs) very insular. Mos are Americans, their Australian, British and Canadian people are either wholly on the right wing U.S. line of thinking or limit their participation to what fits to SWF.
I know several people who participate there and show only 20% of themselves because the other 80% would do no good there.

The world has changed in September when the markets crashed and the U.S. public swung to the left. Many people have recognized this change but not adjusted to the new reality yet. Pre-September-style discussions about military affairs and wars are in my opinion utterly pointless; they are obsolescent.
Attempts to re-write history in favor of the Bush regime are quite outrageous and wasteful.

Btw; no wonder that Bush refused to sign the treaty for the international war crimes court...

Thin-skinned bunch, aren't they?

Sven, I agree 100% about how the world has changed almost overnight. ISTM most military people are still living in that bubble, where they're all heroes and can get virtually anything they desire. I think they're in for a rude awakening. Once the new administration gets a true sense of the extent of the out-year obligations the DoD has incurred, the good times will likely be over. I also suspect we won't see nearly so many "small wars" as some would like.

So far as the Bush legacy is concerned, no matter what some may try to do, I'd say the moving finger has already writ, and it's not to Mr. Bush's advantage.

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