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20 March 2007

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J.-Come on man, don't forget all the "good" things Iran was linked to during the 1980's which led the ENTIRE world to give them the finger in Sardasht and let Iraq off the hook. Let's see Beirut, Hezbollah to this day, numerous other terrorist actions linked to their government, supported by their government since the 70's. You read Baer's book, he says all this. How quickly you forget. MAYBE we need to back off a little, but it's like any other gushing wound, you keep the pressure on it until it stops, not cut off the offending limb.

You forgot that little Arms for Hostage criminal activity with which Iran cooperated in the 1980's; oh, wait, we were involved with that too. Nevermind.

Libya blinked because of the force being used on Iraq and Afghanistan. During the decade before the "experts" were convinced Libya was simply building an irrigation tunnel..LOL. Did Iran kill Iraqis with chenical weapons? And what does killing Jews in Argentina have to do with Iraq? What does supplying weapons to terrorists have to do with self-defense? Your logic here makes little sense.

I'm not suggesting we back off or stop applying pressure to Iran, especially, as you note, their activities supporting terrorism. What I am saying is that 1) it's understandable why Iran wants nukes and chem weapons, given their history (and it's not necessarily to attack US interests), and 2) using overt threats to force a near-term political win won't work as effectively as using quiet diplomacy to work the long-term goal of reducing the proliferation of such weapons.

I recall reading that long before this incident (1983-84 timeframe) Iran had gone to the UN requesting intervention more than once after Iraq started sliming them. The UN ignored them and left them with the obvious choice: develop their own. And lest ye think I'm sticking up for 'em, I'm not -- "it's just business."

J.-Understandable? Maybe. It's the BS rhetoric they spout off with trying to puff up there image in front of all the illiterate Hezbollah volunteers. But I agree, constant diplomacy coupled with a couple of covert incursions to support the up and coming generations and we're all set. Screw the political capital Bush admin might be trying to buy.

Your last point, J., is an important one.

It's only on tv that disarmament happens in a half-hour. In the real world, it always takes years.

You cite Libya correctly. I'll also point out that it took fourteen years for Argentina and Brazil to back away from mutual quests for nuclear arms.

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