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There's a difference in how scientists and terrorists view the world.

When a group of us at my place of work started thinking about terrorism in the 1970s, it took some time to get out of our "scientist" mindset.

That mindset partakes of the academic competition to prove that I'm smarter than you. So a scientist first confronted with the idea of bioterrorism asking her/himself how she/he'd plan an attack tends to focus on one or a few characteristics that are most familiar, and to work them up into something elegant.

Hence the emphasis on genetic engineering in these scenarios from scientists: it's the current hot thing for an academic, and even in money-making biotech.

But as we worked out scenarios with all those details (which can still be used to make a threat look much more dangerous than it it), it became clear that terrorists would seek weapons that can easily be prepared with equipment and materials you can buy in your local hardware store and supermarket and whose development can be hidden.

The degree of effectiveness and numbers of deaths that a terrorist would want depend on their objectives. Back in the 1970s, those objectives were more limited. Even now, we ought to be asking whether enormous death and destruction are the only objectives terrorists are going for.

In any case, ANFO rules.

"f you look at the record, over a thirty year period (1975-2005) there have been two successful BW terrorist incidents."

If you look at the record, before the Wright brothers flew in 1903 there were no flights of powered, heavier-than-air craft. Then the technology changed. You have no idea how fast biotechnology -- especially the technologies of synthetic and computational biology are now advancing. The comparison is somewhat 'apples and oranges', but when you graph the pace and proliferation of their advances, these technologies are now outpacing Moore's Law and IT.

Just how much easier does all this make biological manipulation? The Whitehead Institute at MIT, for instance, was a couple of years ago employing Tibetan immigrants, who possessed absolutely no technical backgrounds and had been in the US for six months, to do the routine work of running their DNA synthesizer batteries. The advance, proliferation and increase in ease of use of these technologies is happening very fast. It's nonsensical to point to a time before these technologies existed and claim that it provides a reliable indication of what the future will bring.

Besides pounding out the usual cliches about why biological weapons wouldn't work without thinkng them through, you're also cherrypicking from what Milton Leitenberg and that Tech Review article said to support those cliches. Leitenberg and the Tech Review article both point to the fact that there is no non-dual use biotechnology (for instance, gene therapy and bioweapons both employ viral vectors)and both point out that current US biodefense research effectively represents a massive upswing in research into bioweapons applications. Neither Leitenberg and the Tech Review article buy into the current bioterror hype. Both point out that bioweaponeering has historically been the province of nation-states and militaries, and that this is likely to continue.

Genomics has in the last five years unleashed a revolution in targeting specificity. The potentials are vast and unprecedented. In terms of bioweapons applications, what we are looking at today is not your father's germ warfare. Any biological effect can, in principle, be targeted and turned off or on -- memory, schizophrenia, etc. This is 2006, for all that many of us still think as we did in 1996 or earlier. We are in the biotech century, which will likely be at least as disruptive as the 19th century's industrial revolution and will have its dark side.


My correlation with the 1975-2005 period is that this is when terrorism grew up and cut its teeth on the public, and all through this time period, there were those doomsayers suggesting that because biotech was increasing and global economy was expanding, bioterrorism was inevitable. Yet nly two successful events, and very small ones at that. Yes, maybe sometime in the future, someone will. But Jonathan Tucker and Milton Leitenberg both make powerful arguments why mere technology availability isn't enough to create a bioterrorist event, and why the US response is both overly hyped and actually dangerous to ourselves.

I agree that it is going to get much easier to create pathogens, but creating one that would be useful to terrorists is something else. Not only must it be theoretically effective it must really work in the real world. A deadly disease that does not infect its victim when spread by the terrorist is not going to be effective problem. A highly infectious agent that the environment neutralizes or is neutralized by its metod of dissemination is not going to be effective. An agent with a brief storage life is not desirable. A terrorist needs to weaponize his agent and that takes more than genetic engineering expertise. It takes time and realistic testing on an extensive basis. Ideally it will require people experienced in dealing with the specific problem and fortunately they are few and getting fewer. What is the best way to spread it to minimize his risk and maximize its effectiveness? This is not a problem that lends itself to theoretical solutions. How can the perfected agent be produced in a safe way without reducing the very deadly properties you want to enhance? It is far easier for a terrorist to be effective with small arms, high explosives, chemical weapons or nuclear weapons than biological weapons. I think biological terrorism will be a black swan for a long time into the future. We can’t ignore it, but there are better and easier means available to our enemies.

It's the economics (stupid). Biological weapons cost serious money, take a long time to prepare, and are subject to large upside and downside risks - it is likely to either oversucceed or fail. Not to mention the risk of getting the germ yourself and the fact that it will burn your bridges politically.

Homemade explosives are cheap, certain and controllable. And with systems targeting, not so much less destructive.

Goodpoint! Yes, it boils down to economics. I really like your term: oversucceed.

I agree with everybody here.

It will continue to get easier to create new organisms with unpredictable effects. Very likely these things will usually be mostly harmless.
we owe it to the Iraqi people to do the best we can for them here on out.
It's expensive to get something "weaponised", arranged so you can infect a bunch of people who won't themselves be particularly infective. And then the result of that expensive work is likely not much more than far cheaper explosives.

On the other hand something might come up with is very good at infecting people by itself. Cheap to get it started, but if you have a population somewhere in the world you want to protect from it, you don't know how ahead of time. You don't know what you've got until it's gone, until it's spreading. If it happens to spread at all.

This is not a good weapon for terrorists, unless their political goals are limited to revenge on the world population. Something on the order of "You watched while my people were genocided and did nothing. You can all come join us." And even then it's very very unreliable. But on the other hand we can't rely on it to fail.

I don't know where that inserted line came from.

we owe it to the Iraqi people to do the best we can for them here on out.

It was in my insert buffer, I was quoting somebody in a different context, half an hour ago. Maybe my 3-year-old in my lap triggered it when I didn't notice.

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